The ADGA Registration Committee presented the Sable Proposal and Addendum to the ADGA Board Meeting on Thursday, October 30, 2003 in their afternoon session. That proposal passed 18-11!
Only one problem, up to that point, it looked like folks like Klisse Foster were not going to be able to enter animals such as her Triumph to the foundation herdbook as Sable due to the way the proposal had changed. This was not only upsetting to Klisse and Gwen, but also to the rest of us. We felt as though our hands were tied at this time, but intended, if the proposal passed, to find a way to be able to bring these animals into our foundation herdbook.
However, Gwen contacted her District 7 directors concerning the problem. They talked it over and at the convention, Shari Renya and Sally Callahan asked Klisse to write an Addendum for the Sable Proposal that would allow us to enter sables like Triumph, etc. to our herdbooks. It was decided , that if the proposal did not pass, the Addendum would not be presented to the Board. After the proposal passed as was presented by Lelia Berry of the ADGA Registration committee, Shari Reyna presented the Addendum as written, without any changes. And THAT passed with only George Althide, Patty Dean and one other abstaining from the vote. Three cheers for Shari, Klisse, Gwen and Sally!
The addendum is as follows:
Animals already recognized as American or Purebred Sables by ISBA be accepted into the Sable herdbook as American or Purebred Sables. These animals are at least 87% AS and meet the Sable breed standard of being colored. These animals would be used as foundation stock for the Sable breed to allow a sizable gene pool. Animals born after the herdbook is established must follow proposed/accepted breed standard.
The 2003 Sable Proposal was not presented until later in the afternoon, which as you know by now passed. Director Patty Dean [ D4 ] wanted breeders to have a choice about putting their Sables into the breed; if they didn't want Sables [pulled out of Recorded Grades?] then they shouldn't have to, but that idea was not accepted. ( Editors Note : This does not make sense. That would be like not registering an Alpine in the Alpine books because the breeder did not want to recognize the fact that the animal was an Alpine ) Through this all Lelia Berry remained pleasant, calm, and smiling pleasantly - as only Lelia can do.
Being one of the first Sable breeders to know the results of the Board vote, Klisse couldn't believe it had passed, and started crying. It was unbelievable! When Nina Schafer slipped out and called Donna Palmer about the proposal passing, she contacted the rest of us by e-mail and telephone so we could pass the news on. Needless to say, we were all in shock. Laughing and crying seemed the order of the day. Many of felt numb after all this stress and hard work!
To show our appreciation, that evening Klisse took Lelia and a couple of other strong Sable supporters to dinner after. Thank you Klisse!!
Later, Klisse talked to a member of the breed task force about the disqualifications that should be in place. With success still racing through her mind, she also brought up something that concerned her about the Saanen breed standard. It states that Saanens accept "white or cream" and many *Saanens* are shown that are a pattern of white AND cream - an actual pattern which is technically not consistent with the Saanen standard. Klisse suggested that the wording be tighter for Sables not to accept a *solid color of white or cream* Another problem deals with the appearance of 1 or 2 small dark spots causing an animal to be considered Sable.
Klisse suggested to the committee member that it might be logical that when ADGA does the changing over to accept Nigerian Dwarfs , it would be easier and less expensive for ADGA to do the Sables at the same time. When ADGA *allows us officially* to show at Nationals as an Exhibition Breed , that registration will be free - although we don't know yet *if* it will be in 2005 at Spokane. Even though we may not be sanctioned for the 2005 National Show, it would be great that whoever can make it with their animals, do so. If you CAN attend, please start planning now to get you and your animals there in Spokane in 2005. That gives you more than a year to plan!
Until the herdbook is officially set up in 2005, we need you to send all the information you have on your sables to Donna Palmer, our registrar. This will include all Sables with 87.5% AS for does/93.25% AS for bucks that have occurred during the breeding up process *instead* of requiring the 3 generations of color in their background that will be in effect 1 January 2005. You can do this by either mailing it to her, or sending it to her by email, and obtaining ISBA registration papers. After the foundation animals are entered and the herdbook is established, it will operate as normal with a breeding up program in place, Then, white kids born from sables will go to the experimental book, with a direct migration for Sables born to Saanen parentage into the Sable Herdbook!!!!!!!!!!
Now, two items:
1. Please keep track of progress of the Sable rules and regs and PROVIDE INPUT so we cover all bases - monthly, if not more. Please check in and inquire about your concerns.
I know that there are many of you who know how hard fought this battle was. Not only by ISBA, but by the original Sable Association, The SBA. Their membership kept meticulous records which have helped us invaluably over the past few years. Folks like Don and Suzy West, who fought hard to have sables accepted. He not only worked for their acceptance, but had a wonderful herd of purebred and American sables himself. He was instrumental is having the original Sable Breed standard accepted and inserted into the ADGA guidebook. l
In addition, folks like Joyce Lazzaro, Sue Estrada, Elaine Fink, Judy Nelson, and many others sent us information from their days in the SBA. It was all like spun gold to ISBA. We can't thank them enough!!
I would like to note that Jan Brewer , a Nubian breeder, sent us a couple dozen issues of the American Milk Goat Record Association books - the first ones issued that included the registrations
No one can mention Saanens or Sables without feeling a great deal of gratitude to Al Rogers who wrote ' Saanen Roots'. His hard work and documentation, provided us with invaluable information about the first colored Saanens being brought to the USA and registered. His hard work on the history of Saanens is irreplaceable, and his place in Sable history is more than assured.
When the torch was picked up by ISBA for a Sable Herdbook as the goal, there were some very valuable contributions made to our efforts in time, money, research, etc. by several members. Diane Gray who was the first spokesperson for ISBA at the 1996 ADGA convention in Arizona, did a wonderful job and received much deserved praise from several directors in ADGA who were having difficulty understanding just what we wanted. She was awesome in describing in detail the information that she had concerning sables, their color gene, etc. Things that left this member in awe!
Our thanks also to Jennifer Smith, who insisted on presenting us to the Board for consideration at the '96 convention. Thank you Jennifer! A big thank you to Linda Campbell, who helped answer questions we had and made sure we kept ourselves informed of what was going on, and what we had to do in order to stay in line with ADGA protocol. Linda has kindly also sponsored our ISBA web sites. She is a real Jewel!
And let's not forget the much needed money contributions from Rodney Keener and John Gilley that helped us start our operations as ISBA, and to send the first two people, Diane Gray and Anita Gilley to the 1996 convention. Though we were unable to submit a proposal for consideration in time to the proper ADGA committees, Diane was able to put together an very professional looking presentation for all the Board members at the Convention. They were left in front of every member chair as notice that Sables were back and dedicated to getting that Herdbook!
Anita Gilley picked up the ball in 199?, being charmed by a Sable born in their herd. Untiringly she brought the Sable back into the limelight when the time was right with the interest of other Sable breeders, the knowledge of Diane Gray about genetics, Dar Glasgow's whimsical artwork promoting Sables, Klisse Foster's determination to bring Sables to the public by showing prolifically, as well as the others who contributed. Anita worked untold hours talking, creating, doing what no one did or was in a position to do.
Ever the diplomat, Anita became an outstanding president after Diane Gray, sharing any new insights about the Sable process with the membership. Anita also published the Sable newsletter, set up the ISBA online list, set up a website promoting Sables and is now webmistress of the current official Sable website, set up auctions to bring in much needed finances, and worked for years on the ADGA Registration Committee helping to get the Sables accepted! We owe much to Anita. Thank you, Anita - Gwen Johnson
And let's not forget the much needed money contributions from Rodney Keener and John Gilley that helped us start our operations as ISBA, and to send the first two people, Diane Gray and Anita Gilley to the 1996 convention. ( someday they will have to share that experience with everyone, it is truly one of a kind ) Though we were unable to submit a proposal for consideration in time to the proper ADGA committees, Diane was able to put together an very professional looking presentation for all the Board members at the Convention. They were left in front of every member chair as notice that Sables were back and dedicated to getting that Herdbook!
Donna Palmer with her wonderful creative ideas on making money, research abilities, and then in 2001, to take over the position of Chair of ISBA, where upon she helped kick things in high gear with her professional approach to our quest. She has the visibility and reputation of being informed, and her support for the Sables has caused many people to look more closely at the Sables as a breed since she has no Sables, but espoused the cause determined to see justice prevail. Donna not only created our web site, she generously hosted it for the last 7 years. She designed the Perpetual Breeding and Gestation charts that have raised us a good deal of money, and created and published the ISBA Breeding calendar. She has been so dedicated and answered every incorrect statement that our opponents threw out there with a cool, calm grace and lots of facts to back herself up, that she won over the majority of those online who had questioned our need for a herdbook.
Gwen Johnson, our Sec/Tres, has worked very hard for ISBA, not only in that position, but in attending the convention 2 years ago to plug us, registering animals and fighting the registration software we had purchased. She finally started to do it all by hand. She dug into the history of Sables, wrote articles, as did Diane and Klisse that were in UCN. This on top of her career as a College Instructor, and a full time job in that field, plus tutoring. She is another who has dedicated themselves to our efforts. I haven't a clue to how she did all this, but we are eternally grateful to her for her hard work and dedication. There is not enough we can say about Gwen other than she has been there through it all, like so many of us, and never tired. She has more than met the challange!
Again, Klisse never failed to take her Sables to shows and awe the judges and the crowds. When she moved from Washington to Indiana with her husband Bruce, she attended many local shows, besides Nationals, where she has served as an excellent ambassador for Sables. More often than not, her Sables were the first glimpse of these beautiful animals that many people had. To say they came away impressed is an understatement. She not only attended the ADGA nationals this year, but went to the AGS Nationals, where she took top honors with her Sables.
Tim Flickinger also made sure his Sables were at shows to make their presence known! Lorraine Kryle did the same in her home state in the Southwest, which ISBA sponsored the Recorded Grade class at that show. She claimed it all with her nice Sables.
We also want to thank Tom Rucker for being a strong force in getting AGS to let us being not only our purebred Sables to their Nationals, but also our Americans. As AGS is a purebred only registry, we want to thank them for their support of Sables as a breed!
In addition to what she did for us at the BOD meeting this year, Director Reyna, who serves as Chair of the ADGA History Committee , was working on the ADGA Historical Archive files in the office at Spindale, and found a treasure trove on Sable Saanens from when ADGA had been AMGRA. She wasted no time in letting us know this valuable information. We appreciate her efforts, along with Chris Strickland who helped her out! They took a lot of flack from some folks for taking the time to gather the information for us, document it, and to make sure we got it. We can't thank them enough!
We also thank Marilyn Grossman, President of NSBA, the National Saanen Breeders Association., and her people who supported us in a separate herdbook for Sables! Thank you Saanen Breeders!
And, what way is there to thank a very special person, another Nubian breeder who believed in our cause, Sally Heeren. Sally has brainstormed with Diane Gray and came up with the most adorable Sable t-shirt...what a hoot! Everyone of us should order one. I will see if she will put some on our online store. It is really cool. She also spent hours on the computer and in person, talking over the proposal, checking every detail with ADGA handbook in the other hand to make sure we were following protocol. Besides being a wonderful friend to all of us, she has been a cheerleader from the beginning. And it happened Sally, it really happened. I know that makes you thrilled! Thank you Sally, over and over and over again!
Then, how to thank the ADGA Registration Committee that was assigned to work with us on our Proposal. The members did so much research and hard work to help try to find a way that Sables could become another recognized breed for ADGA. Lelia Berry was immensely dedicated to completing the work that the committee was assigned to do, and thankfully Donna Palmer availed herself answer the many questions that Lelia could then pass the information onto her committee members.
Then there are the members of the ADGA Board of Directors who showed their foresight in adding another herdbook to ADGA. This is the second one. Recently, they approved the Nigerian Dwarf proposal, and they will also be added in 2005.
Last, but not at all least, you Sable Breeders, all of you who stuck with us like glue, though it seemed year after year that we were never going to accomplish our goal. What would we have done without you??? There sure would not be a Sable herdbook without you wonderful folks!
There are still so many folks to thank for their efforts, that I don't know where to start. So if I left out anyone, please forgive me.
But, the most important thing to do now is, get those Sables registered with ISBA and/or ADGA. They will go into the Experimental book in ADGA for extraction at the appropriate time. Let's make sure all of our gals and guys make it to the foundation book! And to go to shows, for those of you who show, and talk up our Sables. Who knows, more breeders may soon be in the offing. We have already picked up several new breeders this year!
If there is anyone I have failed to mention, rest assured that your participation has also been more than appreciated. Laverne Charles, Nancy St. Vincent, Becky Jennings, Janice Kessler, Lolita Parkhurst, Dar Glasgow Addington, Tara Keener, Sue Estrada, Myra Bamburger, Pam & Steve Gripp, Tara and Rodney, Lorraine Kryle, Diane Gray, Tim, these are but a few of the others who helped us get the show on the road in '96, and encouraged others to stay with it. If I have forgotten anyone, rest assured that your names will be in our history for sure, and we appreciate you even more!
Soon, you will be able to register online, but until then you can send your Sable information, along with a "COPY" of the sire and dam's registration forms to Donna, so we can keep up the pace we have for registration.
You can send them to
Donna Palmer PO Box 5039
Central Point, Oregon 97502
As you can see by the addendum above, it is important that you REGISTER your Sables with ISBA so that they are included in our foundation stock!!
The SABLE books begin in 2005---in line with the beginning of the Nigerian (PUREBRED ONLY) book. Sables will be directly migrated from Purebred/AM parents into the Sable book but any WHITE off spring of SABLES will be EXPERIMENTAL and have to go through the grade program to get back to AM Saanen. (or be used in some other breed upgrade with 3 generations of correct color/ears etc.) In the first year the Sables NOW in the experimental books that are 87.5% AM Saanen or more will be retrieved into the proper Sable book. GRADE Experimental with a percentage of Sable blood will go into the GRADE Sable book. SABLES registered with ISBA will be able for the FIRST YEAR to be transferred over to ADGA herdbooks.
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